from new york neil: easier said than done, one of the loudest vocal criti in the government community says he isrustrated. >> how are you? lou: i'm great. how were you? >> people are desperate.

at the grassroots level all the way out. now, it's starting to show up in the top 500 companies of the united states. we are in very difficult straits tonight'feature when you started talking about this, you weren't yet heard that that you want that youcan't think that companies can ignore the fallout for the fallout is fast and rious. how god is dead? >> i think it's getting really dangerous. because most companiesright now are in survival mode. they don't know what the future's going to be like. they can't get access to capital. customers are scared to death. we are doing stupid thing like converting corn to fuel, we are sitting on great oil resves, natural gas, doing nothing with it. we are building solarplants in the west. it is the stupidest thing i've ever heard in my life. neil: i am going to hold you down to a maybe on green energy. [laughter] you have been a bipartisan on capitol hill.

wasting time as we pile $4 billion of debt every day. they are waiting for novemr for some closure. when you think happens when? >> the most dangerous thing in the rld is a lame-duck session. they cram every bill with junk. so if you don't have the money, don't spend it. we have to retreat and backup away from this and try to get our priorities in line. if this was a business, we would fire the president can fire the ceo because he oesn't know how to generate a profit or engage people to solve problems. neil: is that the president order is keep bashing pitalism? do they go to bar the other way? >> i think that is ridiculous. nobody says i can't wait to go into work until today.

neil: what should we do to get them hiring, gie them expanding? >> serious leadership of the country that says that this is a free enterprise system, let's let the free enterprise work. >> i would take a good hard look at the whole country. my taxes went up 39% and came down 49%. how can anyby get excited about that when u're like god. so somehow we have to get strategic leadership that says that we need to get this engine and the economy pumping again. neil: do you think, and this i mentioned by mitt romney lot. you know that you are going to do things differently?

dubai that? >> everybody talks about reducing taxes because they want more capital to grow their business. but it's also regulations. businesses are confronted at the township and city level. >> here in chicago, you need 161 licenses to open up the business. >> if you open up a job shop, you have to have a license to give them a bath. it's ridiculous. why can't we consolidate some of these things and reduce the reauacy? it isn't about the people collecting anything but a paycheck. neil: they mt realize that the more they push this, the more it it endangers the economy and theirery jobs are online. >> you would think so, when you? there is a lot of evidence that says those people inside the beltway are living in a bubble.

washington dc is the only city in the united states that has had taken continuousgrowthh >> what about when gas comes down? >> you have a gas situation where you have $4000 and thei wages have only gone up about 1%. was coming up, where is the

thing going to? >> it leaves cut taxes. >> i'd like to see taxes go down and someone say america is great. let's do everything we can to eliminate obstacles to success vmax my next guest says that regulations are really killing business. we have congressman eric cantor, the house majority leader is pushing to cut the red tape. and since he does have out there, he actually has a shot at doing it. it's just too hard right now for businesses to continue to operate, given all the onerous and burdensome regulations coming out of washington. and we want to make that stop so we can turn the country aund and began to be a starter country again.

we know that the obama administration over the course of the term has imposed 400 regulations that impose more than $100 million of costs annually on small businesses. the small business administration has said that there are so many regulatory burdens on small business that it cost them $10,000 per employee. those are the kinds of things that we want to stop right now so we can see moe startup and jobs created. >> is one thing to hope for freezing regulations. but i guess we had hoped for "a-team" canaday. if you don't know these regulations, you could be in big trouble. let's say that you stop adding to the regulations. that alone has prompted the obama administrati say, well, republicans don't want to protect us. how are you going t answer the predictablcriticism that

you're not looking outor folks, you are looking out for business interests? >> well, we are. we are saying in health emergency, of course. any sensible policymaker would say you have to be able to address those. but right now, the pendulum has swung so far that it's very difficult to even conceive starting up your business. and we want that to occur again. much less allowing for those who are operating businesses to keep the lights on and grow. you know, you look at the last three years. we have seen a 23% decline in the number of business startups. in america, we are a starter country and we want to see it happen again. neil: he was ronald reagan's top money guy. why he says capitalism is in trouble these days and it's the governments fault. theay, republicans as well. we have david stockman acts. and suzanne somers on lala land

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neil: the economy is stumbling. nothing seems to be happening, but ralph nader has got a plan. one day he says he will get companies hiring and fast. getting people spending soon. >> nfinancial companies are sitting onver a trillion dollars of shareholders cash. the investors cash. a lot of them are no giving adequate evidence. some of them like google and emc giving no dividends. if they can be ressured by

pension funds to unload a cup and billion dollars into the economy, people would spend it. they don't like the tax penalty for it. would you give them a tax holiday? you have to put it to use and do something? >> they tried that in 2004 and they brought back hundreds of villains. they put the murders and bonuses and what we have to do is recognize the president obama is not an economic dictator. the federal reserve can bring interest industry rates much lower. so we have to go to these two other areas are overwhelming support of inflation adjusted minimum wage.

>> i'm not alone in an environment li this, how are you gog to compel businesses, fast food joints and the rest, but it's in there interest to raise the rates when they are barely getting by as it is just as henry ford did back before world war i to $5. he said he wanted people to buy the cards. that's what you got to do. neil: so what abousubstance of the country where they have jobs with $10 an hour. were people really aren't jumping on these jobs. where we have a country where help wanted advertising is at an all-time high. a lot of people, for whatever reason, it are having trouble with work. >> we are talking between seven and a quarter and 10. he would get a long-overdue pay

raise just to in just to inflation. if you have rick santorum and mitt romney saying the minimum wage should be ingested, that would put pressure on them. >> let me ask you this. do you think the people are as tired of the notion of government could do something? we have seen a little bang for the buck. a lot of people are going the other way. they are careful to go that wa because they remember republicans. but is there a limit to what the government can do? would you say that cars being made safely, and they say, you know,government can't make an economy as a whole.

>> they don't have much power. we have to demand more from big business. neil: will te government demand that? >> business can hardly keep up with the corporate climb. barclays, jpmorgan chase, now, wasko, 3 billion-dollar fine. we have to save these corporations. they were built on the backs of american workers. build buildout by american taxpayers. recording cord profs. sitting on trillions of dollars, keeping them away from their owners and the investors and the workers. neil: are you sayi that there was crime involved? there was no crime involved. are you saying that all of these guys ae typical? in other words with that there are more bad guys and good guys? >> the big guys have too much power and are too big to fail and all that. >> leches take the fortune 500. would you say, you mentioned

three prominent companies. would you say that is 3%? 5%? 50%? i just disagree with that. >> if you look at the reports, my book that you've mentioned, those are reports from "the wall street journal." the ap, "washington post", 60 minutes. we live in a corporate world. there are not enough on the corporate crime beat. neil: economic gloom and doom is actually helping this gentman alive. to are you kidding me? >> i am not kidding you. i just need $150 and not that. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a ltle bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand

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>> i'm n going anywhere. >> go right out the front door. how about that? >> how about that? >> listen here, listen -- i dot give a darn, you can have it. >> here is your ball. neil: here is something that israel is the economy. it's a very bad, that business that pawnshops -- well, he says everyone is coming in lately and even rich folks. that's what our next guest says. >> she left calmly, because she had no option.

when we can't take your pond item, we can help you. it started with her in it sonated on to me. we don't want to be disrespectful. when you disrespect us, we act accordingly. neil: you act a little scare away. what is going on here? you know, we are hearing so much about wedding rings and engagement rings and everything. we have seen an uptick in people that make a lot of money what

average folks are telling you, showing you, palming onto you, tell us about the economy. >> we have merchandise which is up online, with the other one is for redeeming merchandise. the economy is good. our sales floor is busier. our palmines are longer and we are taking in a lot more merchandise. right now it's getting a little bit better. people are working desperately

to get to work. people just need to go out and every morning when you wake up coming have to ask yourself, how bad do you want to? go get a job, it doesn't matter if you clean the streets are wed a lawn, or you are a doctor, there are opportunities out there. what i advise them is don't over

extend yourself. neil: so my wife's 250,000-dollar ring, -- [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> we've been doing this long enough, we understand. >> don't go anywhere else. thank you very much for coming. he is the guy.

we will have the response to barack obama coming up next.

neil: it has be pretty much the legacy of this president's term and it was handed off by his predecessor if you think about it. auto companies, you name it. a lot of us actually started a long time ago before each of these men even came in to office. back to the carter years, to chrysler a very big bailout. david stockman, who was then a congressman was urging against. >> i was running for reelection and chrysler was the biggest employer and i got the highest%

of election because i suck my principles. the professionals knew that if they got in trouble, they were big enough to make a stink and to go down. neil: but now thngs have switched. now they have gone from too big to fail. >> up the speech that i gave and i was very unpopular in the mission michigan delegation. i voted against the appropriation. [talking over each other] ronald reagan might get. >> the point was it was a mistake then. not only for chrysler, because we had to bail them out again 25 years later, how can we have financial markets that have been disciplined where mistakes and

errors go unpunished? you can. capitalism doesn't work that way. neil: i agree with you. you bertie concerned me. we had no choice because there was a financial abyss waiting. but if we can stabilize, the whole world would have collapsed. i've been spending the last 2.5 years writing a book on this very topic thawill be coming out next winter. take aig. they had writte proper rules, they wouldn't have had these problems. therefore, we could have put aig

into bankruptcy. the only difference is one woman was writing all this stuff. >> so we would have survived? >> yes. neil: now we have an environment where this is routinely done. the european central bank will do the same over there. >> what has become of capitalism? >> the capitalism has been destroyed by central banks. they are the price of death. when you have the entire financial system trading off the last of the statements and whispered words of the central banks, it is no longer dog its job. or allocating capital, discounting the future, making choices within the financial system. so if you don't have capital markets that are robust and working, how can you have a dynamic of capitalism? i don't think you do. this is the ultimate fault of

this money printing binge that were on today. neil: up that the chicken is coming to roast? >> everybody is making their own choice. we have massive speculation going on. basically we are diveting capital to a spectrum of use. what we are telling washington, you are running a deficit for the fourth year in a row and yet you can borrow money almost for nothing. so why don't you just wait another year or two years. who wants to take the fall? who wants to take the political heat if you can borrow money for five years, which is what they are doing now.

neil: we are building another debt bubble? >> yes, we are doing so. >> i don't know what you call it. we've never been there before, we've never had a central bank. we've never had anything like that. >> you don't think it can walk past the graveyard much longer? >> i don't think so. i don't think we can whistle the tune vermuch longer. >> okay. neil: if you had a lead suit you would buy it. [laughter] neil: dad, thank you so much. the president is now speaking out. that coming upnext twins. i didn't see them coming.

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neil: probably not a fox alert to tell you that huge celebrities like democrats, they actually help the president win if you think about it. but not every star was going gaga over the president. suzanne somers says that that is

a risk for them as well. if you are conservative, you are not welcome in hollywood. >> is it really does liberal bastion? >> yes, it is a liberal bastion. >> they don't associate with moderate to conservative? >> it is all about that ideology. you know, when you make that much money, you don't care. because you have your money. neil: would they think about when jon lovitz came along. >> he's not invited either he's never going to be invited. neil: but he said enough of this. >> i thought that was interesting. not many people speak out like that. i have a little business, so i like to not offend anybody. so i don't tell anybody my views either way. neil: i would say i'm a centrist that leans to the right. neil: you have to be moderate on her persona non grata.

>> i sell my little life with my organic skincare. neil: that's a lot of money for your little skincare line. >> i didn't leave tv. i was escorted and booted out the door in and fired. i get tired a lot. how dare me to expect themto pay me what they pay the men. but then it was good because i thought i will never work for anybody else again. so i work for myself, and i have all these years. >> all the beauty products and things, everything around her image, do you feel a lot of pressure without? to feebeautiful? >> i just wake up like this and it's so easy. neil: me too. [laughter] i sawyou talk to will tell

welsh. >> my thing is that she knows her image is everything. everytng has to be right. >> her writing is very good anyway. i feel pretty confident. neil: you know, the writing at 50 pounds, did you know that? [laughter] talking over each other] [talking over each other] neil: will this be mitt romney's disadvange to the media? >> it probably is, but it won't be to me. >> i think that he should have come out a long time ago and said this. but anyway i'm glad he did. most of my friends are.

neil: he's not going to pick up any additional electoral votes, maybe he did it for all the right asons. >> it could've been perfect timing. neil: what do you mean? >> wl, you know, -- neil: with some liberal friends hold off on giving him more money? >> i think that a contingency did. this is what they really want. if they are not thinking about the ramifications on the economy and what's going to happen in this country goes socialist. neil: do you think that this country will go socialist? >> i do worry. i have my little business and i do worry. at a certain point when you're a small business like i am --

neil: you're not a small business. you ara warren buffett with long-haired if you reach a point where you get to 75%, which is being tossed aroun there, how can you keep your employees? at some point when you're not making any profit. neil: a lot of what you say, it is 35% right now, that what you're saying, you bring in up to 39.6% under clinton. i might be able to live without. i might not. is their level of crunching the numbers? you are pretty good at math? >> i am maied to a canadian and i can always run to canada. [laughter] he has dual citizenship. neil: may be billionaires are not focung on jobs because they are focusing on their love lives or their lack of one. how the grinch are stiking out

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neil: if you are rich, the president is itching to go after you. my next guest says that is bad, but this could be worse. millionaires and billionaires are having a taxing good time finding love. but 1-800-flowers jim mccann says that he has the fix for that. i am finding that the peak is in. they are all telling me about what things are all about, the number one or number twohow in the country is the big bang

theory, so we are all celebrating the geek. neil: this idea that if you have is business, very good common sense, i think they are looking for answers in all the wrong places. how do you invite them? >> i will tell you a a florist, it is good business being in an ability to help people and relationships. i have been a social worker, i have been a florist, and both have a common theme. i wrote a book abot my discoveries about the thing that makes us unique on this planet, which is a core of the story. the matter what, everything we do, whether it's the places we work with a service organizations that w might want to come in the sporting activities, we are all seeking out social intimacy. and if you are a hard-working and hardcharging geek of some success or not, you may not have the opportunity to meet someone, yet we are searching for that

every day. neil: you have a lot of guys that send flowers from secret admirers and all that. >> we are very happy to hear that. neil: you were telling me during the break that the number of guys who send flowers out is not a reflectionon of a date or anniversary is because he they are sorry or they did something stupid. >> there's not a days that goes by that i don't have a young guy come up to me and say you saved my butt so many times because i've always screwed up. either we make less mistakes, but it's a high percentage for young men. t so much for the older guys. they be we have smartened up. neil: you should have an apology

bouquet. we have a dog house uk. do people use flowers to make a statement? >> during the last few years, the top recessionary times, we saw a number of transactions with the average ticket was down. and our food busies held up even better. a box of chocolates mighte a little bit less ephemeral than a bouquet of flowers. birthdays are still going to come around. all of those celebratory occasions are going to come around they need to participate in. we had a nice little service that will help others. neil: who better than the guy who plays cliff on how jobs are

falling off a cliff. john mica murder on layouts that are way out of the norm. and while he says his fix is better than washington's. better than washington's. bar none. 4g lte is the fastest.

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neil: clip is going postal.

a famous actor who play clip on theit tv show cheers, with millions of workers struggling to find work, heis working to get actors back to work. neil: it was almost ingrained in us to move away from that. it really killed us, do not. >> yes, it did. i started talking about the subject about 10 years ago when the water was at her ankles and now it's up to her chin. because the average age of someone who is skilled and can make things, wheer it's in a fax factory or a plumber or welder is about 57 years old. very soon, they will all be retired and we have no one coming up after them.

everyone is talking about what kind of capricorn where. but we are heading for acrisis. while business, whatever the businesses, stems from two things. mining, manufacturing and farming. everything springs from now. you have to have peopl showing up to have the skills. and we have never taught her kids the skills the last 30 years. they would sooner turn those guys away and search for cheaper labor. e reality is decades. you are not going to call a plumber from china to unclog your toilet or a welder. neil: so now you are saying that we have to encourage this. so we put alost a scarlet letter to a? >> it is hollywood's fixation they came out of the charlie chaplin view of factory workers.

it's not like that anymore. you have to have computer skills. people who give advice to high school kids should say, start educating kids like we used to. neil: even if they found their jobs that don't pay what they used to, in this environment, it will pay you anything you are

going to get and you will be grateful for it. >> the government has to understand. [talking over eh other] [talking over each other] neil: what about barack obama? >> the government needs to get out of the way. manufacturing is to america what spinach is to popeye. the strength of america is manufactured. neil: you don't think we can have a great country based on service? >> again, you go back to or terminals and electricity has to

come through there. where you get do you get that from? a hydroelectric dam words power that is coal-fired. and now now they have all of these restrictions on coal mining and also the hydroelectric and i have talked to the people and they said that they can't find workers that work on the turbines to repair the turbines. sohe day to come. it could come when no one is around to manufacture it. every little part has to be shaped. someone has toake a chunk of metal and put it into the machine and all that down to 120 southend-- 120,000th of an inch. neil: you been in every pixar movie. >> .true, but in the long haul,

actors, sports, celeities, the rest ofus, we aren't. neil: how did you do it? how did you succeed and do the things you do hodo you you still be a big succs in hollywood? the left loves you. the right loves you. and it's pretty much from as far as i as i can tell from a u.n. plan is for it. i don't get it. >> my message goes across the board. you have to cross the same bridge everyday whether you are republican or democrat. neil: but it doesn't ht you signing up to the next pixar movie wee undertaking. i hope they just don't watch the show. neil: that will do it, thnk you for wahing. be prosperous and safe and be loved.